The MFTA Winter League began at Far Coley in Staffordshire. Despite a clear sky and plenty of sunshine there was a cold edge that signalled winter was on its way. A light breeze drifted across the Far Coley woodland, just enough to tickle pellets away from the kill zone or perhaps not enough to guide that straight-one onto the paddle.
After a very successful summer for midlands' shooters there now followed the challenge of ten rounds of the Winter League. Whilst the WL is a great introduction to the sport of Field Target shooting it is also a fervent competition. Top gun from last year was Neil Daniels and there were many excellent shooters after his crown. Maybe the overall title was only for a coveted few but the lure of a place in the MFTA Inter-regional team (top 15) and the Frayed Knot team (top 30) was there for all to dream.
Steve Page, back from South Africa and amongst the favourites for the WL title.
Far Coley's shooting ground consists of various terrain set in working farmland. Today the course started with six targets around a fishing pool, it then meandered up to a new shooting line offering woodland targets. Then on to the empty pool, where declined shots could be found, and finally a tricky pair in exposed field. An excellent test!
Two shooters, Stuart Hancox and Steve Page, came off the course early sharing an impressive score of 28; this would be later matched by Neil Daniels. Michael Brown and Marc Fisher bagged a pair of 27's to give Castle three shooters in the top 5. The scoring then got tight with fifteen shooters sharing 16th spot having knocked over 24.
It was good to see old friends and some new faces on the line.
One of the bonuses of FT is that there's always something to see. Today the farmland was alive with birds but I was surprised when this little fellow flew across the pond whilst I was waiting at lane 1.

Round 2 of the MFTA Winter League took place at Castle FTC near Nottingham. It was a beautiful autumn morning, the sky was clear and there was only a little wind. The car park at Castle was bathed in sunshine but a trip into the woodland saw the temperature plummet. The weather forecast had promised 8mph wind and this coupled with Steve Page's poly-directional course was sure to be a test. The dense woodland of Castle can provide some shelter from the wind but there are open avenues that are exposed which meant that each target needed careful thought.
The misses on the targets today were offering little clues as to the wind direction. What was evident though was that some shooters were missing low, probably because of the cold. Targets were showing the tell tale crescent below the kill-zone. Some face plates had taken quite a battering, particularly the 40 yard stander!
Despite talk of lots of misses some top guns were constructing a good round. Once again Mr Daniels sent the message that he was MFTA Champion and wasn't ready to relinquish it. Well done Neil for an excellent 29.
Being close to the NEFTA region means that a Castle competition will attract our friends from the north but today a surprise Welsh interloper, fresh from 3rd place at the Worlds; well done Berty!
I wasn't there but I gather it was very windy. Congratulations to Marc Fisher whose score of 23 was 2 clear of the field.
Millride it seems is always blighted by poor weather. Last Winter League the wind was gale force and the GP in May saw conditions more akin to the Southern Ocean. So when the forecast for this weekend was for more of the same I'm sure many shooters considered doing a bit of DIY on Sunday. However, the sky remained blue all morning and the sun slowly warmed us all up. I think that some shooters were disappointed that the urban myth had been broken, I heard one claim "we're not supposed to get sunshine at Millride".
Today's shoot consisted of 22 targets within the small wood and 8 exposed targets in the field. It started with a welcoming 55 yarder which was quickly followed by a high stander that caused problems for a few. The wind direction was mainly parallel to the shooting line which meant only a little needed to be given for wind but deciding which side was tricky. It was a long course yet early scores were high. First on the line was Karl and Debbie Clarke from Millride; Karl set the pace with an excellent 28 and Debbie a strong 20 to help her pursuit for the C grade table. This is Debbie; I think!
Millride is the home ground of Mitchel Tomes who today added another 21 to his string of good scores. He is 2nd in B grade and a shoe-in for the Frayed Knot team. Keep it ip Mitch!
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#It rattled & it burbled & it's drawer doors broke off, now it's standing in the front yard lookin' kinda rough#
#Now, the guys in the hi-vis vests are comin' in the morning but if it's still here when I get home they'll be getting a serious warning.#
You don't get this kind of culture when Shaun's on here do you.
"Now I don't like to be afussing, but if aint gone I'll be a cussin'"
All in the style of Fats Waller.
is there anybody there! just come back from my thursday night slot i`m now shooting 22 rim fire as well. i love shooting .............mmmmmmmm
Evening all, anybody about?
i is here
What's all this about shooting rimmies then?
Evening all.
Now thats a turn up for the books.
Way back in 92 Aldersley had rimfire but Spittles had something to do with it. Also that was the time i first seen an electronic trigger and came to conclusion at best they cannot be as good as a mechanical jobby.
Was talk about opening the outside range up during the refurbishment 2002 region but said that 10 years earlier.
Right Balti pal how does one find out where these Taybarn pubs are considering the site is useless?
We have an ex pub landlord at work and never seen or heard of them, same as me.
Gradually creeping down from the north Jonny. My gaffa, who's a Geordy, says they have them in Newcastle & I think there's one in Derby or Burton or somewhere like that. They may be one in Leicester but I went to the one in Coventry, Guilgud way by the Premier Inns, just off the M6. Alright for 8 quid, 6 during the day.
Blow me over the Taybarns site came straight up, even better location finder seems to work but only list 5.
Says Coventry is 33 mile, yeah right, next closest Newcastle 32 mile.
Expensive eat taking running costs in to equation, need more than £50 for two plus drinks.
This seems to work Jon;
http://www.taybarns.com/
I'd sooner do a Chinese buffet, myself.
Lists 5
Coventry, Newcastle, Swansea, Wigan and Barnsley at 68 mile yeah right more like 90+
What about this idea?
http://www.shooting-the-breeze.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2102
I would sooner go without or have some proper food.
Than a Taybarns or a Chinese?
I LOVE Chinese grub!!!!!! I may have one Sunday after Harriers, I'm off work Monday again, another eyeball poking session at the Hospital!
Europeans- Wheres this gonna fit in around an already too hectic season.
We have already lost several decent annual shoots including Himley Hall run by Stourvale.
Summer league didnt take off either over 10 years ago.
We did have an inter club thing with Rough Wedge, Acton Pastures and Millride the only one left.
It'll just be an Open I 'spose, bound to clash with something somewhere but if you have itchy feet or just fancy a change of scene......
Ere you got ITV on now, British tax payers funding foreign car makers in that scrappage scheme.
Nah, I am sequested in the PC area, as far from the TV as possible without actually getting into the loft!
Doesn't surprise me though!
Right Clan Ralph is landing, I may be a little while!
Evening all. In LA, just back from watching the Lakers play. Last night it was the Kings playing ice hockey; all in the name of education Phil!
Good luck at Harriers on Sunday!!
Evening everyone, good shoot today at the 'ride & getting more & more popular as well.
Half of Far Coley there along with a representative of Hungary's best. Kev & Gary with new PCPs & benign conditions to boot. I dropped 8 today but only 2 of them I resented, the Stander & the high Crow when Ella slipped on my knee, I don't think I could have gotten more than 20 there today so Roy unconditionally out shot me with a 22, Well done that man!
Bad luck to Jonny D avoiding a clearance by 1!
Today was very enjoyable. Our man Kev scored 210, so he's on his way with his new kit.
Don't look at the weather forecast for tomorrow though.
See told you no porkies Andras was coming over.
Three weeks Robbie from SA coming over again.
So what did we learn today?
Bring mrs and tell her to run out and place the targets for you to shoot.
I haven't got one of them, so I'll have to borrow someone elses!
andras shot with me today, top shooter we both dropped two nice to se him again a foreign millrider
i take it theres nobody there as usual, you are the weakest link good nite
On me own again - PUSSIES
Well what an eye opener, never missed so many under 30 yards.
Probably bad timing but got fed up of waiting on quite a few, one in partic 26 yarder big kill, cmon whats a man got to do aim 1 1/2 kills out, it moves fair bit over 2 kills.
Seemingly impossible shots 2 3/4 mildots about 3 1/4 kills went over.
Altogether, fun day out, same for everyone but less wind please from the side instead in front.
It was kinda fun, riddiculously harsh wind but honestly couldn't have done much better than I did, maybe two more, maybe three tops!
Well done to Karl with a 21 & Debs with her 14, interesting to see how that works in C grade for her!
18 was right up there today Jonny, funny saying that back outloud but true!
Nice pint of dollop down the Swan after as well. Pork pie & mustard as well, Mmmmm!
It doesn't take much to please us does it Greg.
Have any plans for pre-WL4 course maintenance been made yet?
I have plans for ours involving 2 gallon of petrol and a couple of matches.
Could blame it on the bikers, should have done it 11 years ago when we relegated to that area again.
My thoughts go out to Andras. He came all that way to be greeted by Englands finest weather, just what FT is about.
I wanted to go round again but they fetched the course in, following that get the other latest Anchutz out to run in.
Serves me right for rolling up at 10.52am.
We all wondered where you were Jon but many decided on the same tactic. When Paul & me booked in around 0900hrs, there were only 37 shooters signed in.
Yes, tough on András but on the other hand he had a masterclass fron Ozzie on shooting in adverse weather.
evening damp ones!.............i said damp ones, not tampons
I daint get wet, Cmon
this pc is racked off
Still in bed then Balts.
What seems to be the trouble sir?
Here you go, does it bring it all back?
http://s214.photobucket.com/albums/cc267/Baltipal/WL3%20Harriers%2009/?action=view¤t=WL3Harriers09005.flv
http://s214.photobucket.com/albums/cc267/Baltipal/WL3%20Harriers%2009/?action=view¤t=WL3Harriers09012.flv
You may have to wait for buffering, just leave them on play & try them after on replay.
put post up just then it bombed out, then slapped in 2 for good measure
Its lag or dns issues if you arent throttled, i have the same especially tonight most web pages unavailable or ultra slow.
Greg do you have to pay for that photobucket?
Had picturetrail for near on 10 years but cant host vids.
Nah, free registry.
Just had another butchers, sure i registered.
Tried last three old email addys, no joy.
And alittle slideshow;
http://s214.photobucket.com/albums/cc267/Baltipal/WL3%20Harriers%2009/?action=view¤t=91341c7c.pbw
thanks greg good photo of me shooting, well trying to shoot at least
Did the video work for you lads?
no i aint got 4 hours to spare
Like I said, it just needs to buffer up. Put it on play then do something else for a while. When you hit replay it should play straight through like a proper video.
not on this peice of c**p ram a big enough need a real pc now
Ok for me Greg on a slow connection, just leave it to buffer, it will start playing then buffer repeatedly.
Who is your ISP Cmon?
Has anybody noticed that Kev is currently lying 2nd in the Stourvale Trophy?
wats one of them
Ian. if you scroll all the way the WL total points page you'll see it. It's a mini leauge for people in their first WL season, I believe. Men of your calibre don't usually scroll that far down the table, but if you can force yourself to go down that far like us "unworthies" you'll see it. Mind you don't get stuck down there though.
no roy i was talking to jon !.............my name is on the stourvale trophy mate 2nd name on. C`mon
stuck down there! i am on my way,it would seem
What happened to you after the shoot, by the way? Bathams Best Bitter was there for the taking.
needed to get back to take mia out before them bloody fireworks started again. as been as i can not rely on ethier of them lazy cows at home
I think we've only heard a coupleof fireworks so far this year. Usually they start about a month before. Perhaps it's a sign of the recession.
Well, I'm back from the hospital & the latest eyeball poking session, the bloke now says he'd like me to be injected with dye & some more photo's taken. That will be the fourth time this year I've had my eyes messed with, all these bright lights being shone into my chemically dilated eyes really can't be doing them anygood at all surely!
I will be growing a 'tach for the month of November to fight Prostate Cancer OR as they put it(and it does make me shudder!) I'll be growing a MOustach during the MOnth of MOvember because I am a MObro!
Visit here if you feel you can make a donation or are just curious about this;
http://uk.movember.com/mospace/your-donation-page
As you will imagine, because it's me, it won't be just any old 'tach. It WILL be a thing of beauty!!!!!!
Piccies will follow.
a hair lip then mate
it would be nice to get 1100
me
1100
now thats wat you call poaching.............C`mon
Low tricks from the 'ride Chairman, tut, tut, tut, tut!
i did not cheat, put them on at 1 minute intervals you look so every one had chance, i am sporting
Of all the low down tricks, some of us were still at work then 32 mile away.
Gone in disgust ---------
See what you've done now Ian, you've upset Jonny, it'll all end in tears I tells ya!
I reckon i can get 1200 before 8.15pm.
The avatar says it all
Just chatting to Swifty & the reason he wasn't at Harriers was that he has had a major scope failure & it is back at Nikko getting sorted.
Aha the disposable scopes.
Evening chaps. Just got in, but going out again shortly. Visited the national Memorial Arboretum near Alrewas today. It's not only for the armed forces, but for the police, fire and ambulance service as well. The main memorial though is for the 16 000 armed forces personell who've died since the end of WW2. It's very impressive, and when it's matured it'll be stunning.
Sorry, that should hsave been "personnel".
Harriers scores are up.
Didnt expect that many points for that abysmal performance.
Greg you have hit 1 more target than Roy, are the gloves off?
They've never been on!!!
Evening gent! The scores suggest that Harriers was a Horror!
Off to bed blog tom!
The big competition will happen Saturday at H2H 14, there is only one other after this year & the beer must be mine!
Welcome home Shaun, sleep that jetlag off matey!
Progress on the 'tach, definition is beginning to occur!
Hi gents,
I am back no more sulking about missing my shooting.
Well latest info scope bust, reticle moving.
So all my moaning about EV shifting POI looks like it was scope problem?????????.
Jon, could I contact you ref new sidewheel?.
Greg, just watched video looks like you gents done well to hit anything in that weather.
You guys dry yet,Lol.
Hiya Steve. We were blow dried that afternoon bud, infact almost desicated by that breeze. I'm glad I chose to leave the wide-brimed hat in the car, I'd have been casing it all over!
So, is it a fixed scope or a new scope on the horizon?
Greg,
????????????????????, possible new Nikko as this will help with range finding if I then take the plunge and get a Leup. I have to drop mag for standers and kneelers so more practise req.
I meant fixed as in repaired, bad choice of words from me. I'm the same, I still need to drop mag to shoot disciplines, I range & shoot on x35 otherwise though!
Steve heard a load do exactly the same plus many other problems. Hence the term disposable scope.
I didnt get wet last on, well my feet did.
Cant be fixed so waiting to see what happens now.
Heard some good stuff about the new Nikko so we will see. Would love a Leup but not sure yet need to get a bit better at my shooting first.
New for Old mate?
Jon,
Could you make me a wheel the same sort as on Mitch,s new nikko. Nice and fancy and polished??.
Please.
Greg not sure at min.
Greg not sure at min.
Think i have gone deaf.
You don't have to keep me updated minute by minute Steve.........hourly will do!
Please, please,please.
take it everybodys gone. just got back from pub
Hi all. Just back from the 49th & 50 rounds of .22 through a Ruger 10/22, It's rapid fire fun!
Hi Greg, how's things?
Hi Shaun, have you come back with an American accent?
A little jet lag and too much fatty food but no accent, thaank gawd!
No Leups either?
A pin badge.
Welcome back Shaun. Wasn't it a shock defeat for The Lakers?
Got to go out now: talk later perhaps.
Ahh, Paul didn't bring any back either.
I bet your trigger finger is well itchy now though!
Was that grey flash a low flying Arby, perchance?
Greg, after next Saturday you're gonna have to get used to seing me disappear into the distance.
In the mirror????????
I thought you were rushing off anyway, what's happened, has the lady who strains your soup arrived?
Evening Roy. Yes, the Laker's defeat was a surprise. Some of our lads had bought the Kobe Bryant vests for $90 and were v disappointed.
Yes Greg my trigger is itchy but it's not allowed out until WL4
Hmmm - trip to California? - gay capital of the world? - comes back with an itchy trigger? a complete mystery.....
Makes you think, doesn't it?
Buenas tardes amigos, I am returned from leccion siete de español, more food buying tonight, ¡olé!
AFKB for pollo con ensalada, hasta luego.
results are now up. bloody royal mail
itchey something
Evening bloggers, just checking in before the Clan Ralph decend upon us here at Ralph Towers!
Is everyone OK?
Ok here just spoke to your mate again in SA.
Would that be Fawlty Towers? Keh
Are you back on that forum yet Jon?
Nah cant be arsed after they banned me.
Dieter the owner specifically wants me back.
Mut luvs fireworks!
Just gonna crash a display, better be some grub.
My poor puppy wants to go out and play in the garden. Not with all this noise going on. Seems to like looking at pretty lights in the sky through the window though..
Hi Phil, András the Hungarian who came over last week, was asking about you.
Greating dear chap. What was he asking may i enquire dear sir
Well, he asked me who the bloke with the blue FWB was in my photo's as he hadn't had a chance to talk to him at Harriers, I think he wanted to chat P70's! I pointed out that you were a 'rider & had been at Millride on the Saturday as well.
That's it, the Ralph's have landed. See you all later!
Well i have never known a dog like fireworks, his favourite the rockets that split up, whistle and the baboomers.
Mind you he does chase helicopters.
Snoring his head off now.
mines still glued to the window.... Looking longingly with great intent of chasing one...
Hello all,
Jon, I am in desperate need of a sidewheel mate, my new nikko has arrived and I thought great be able to get out shooting the weekend. But now having put it on gun, the sharkfin off my old Nikko is no good, my pointer is no good and to top it off the sunshade dont fit (did know about the sunshade though). So please mate any chance????.
Gents, For sale, Sunshade, Sharkfin sidewheel.
Put it on upside down Swifty!
Steve, all depends how it goes today and tomorrow, otherwise at least three weeks.
Any news from the Ride?
Evening all, hi Shaun.
A great day was had at Millride today, even Eddie turned up!
Little wind & the rain held off for our penultimate H2H showdown, Roy crumpled abit under the intense pressure, despite support & encouragment from me! He also suffered from 'Turret-Out' syndrome, it was a shame!
Scores as I remember them;
Jonny D 24ex25
Daz 23
Karl 23
Jonta 22
Phil J 22
Me 22
Ian 21
Big gap due to poor memory;
Paul 14
Roy 12
Where's everyone gone? 'Strictly' is finished now!
aha, new Knight Riders just finished watched it on this pc and recorded.
Think i will start that rail in a bit now having to resort to that X factor trash.
Yes Mr Balti i was pleasantly surprised with your score, good shooting.
Ian and me going to Cross Guns tomorrow morning after 10am.
Cheers Jon, having a day off shooting tomoz, have lie in, maybe catch a film at the flics.
So who got the title then, Roy or you?
Ooh and you never did say what you was doing to barrack- Of all the low down tricks- good lad.
I gave Roy nothing but support in his lowest points today, I comiserated when he missed, I offered suggestions in his darkest moments, as a good mate & shooting partner should!
Still got one more to do mate, he has a slight hill to climb now though but........still interesting. He is at his most dangerous when his backs against the wall. Like a corned Walrus!
That should be 'cornered' of course, 'Corned Walrus' seems both exotic & prosaic at the same time!
Got to go and do some work.
You will have decent points from today possibly streaking 9 in front.
Not over till the fat lady sings, cmon Roy.
I thought I'd have a day off, I thought I'd have a lie in. Instead I'm up at 0730hrs having a shave & thinking about shooting! Have I been brainwashed do you think?
No day off for me, i would be a bear with a sore head for a week otherwise.
See Mr Stoddy didnt turn up, fine weather shooter.
Took both Anchutz up with bottle, i was gonna sling some lead. Didnt get my own gun out.
51 yarder in the field, said to Stu Bobs gonna have to pull this one up, bang it goes standing, no dialling, different pellets, stock didnt fit, etc. Made Stu laugh upsetting Bobby.
Evening guys, Ian and myself ventured out to FC as they had set the coarse out in way that they had never done so before. Very interesting day for both. First time through rain for a while(least tried out new coat) slight breeze. Managed to get 18 targets in second time round with a much stronger wind.
Ian had big issues with top turret on the nikko. Hopefully this maybe resolved.
feeling better then Jonta?
Sound mate went out for curry and beer last night at Harrys. Madrass special with 7 pints of Stella.
whats it like there? wood farm isn't it?
Evening gents.
Very nice Phil, it is next to the range bar/function room. It is not licensed so take your own beer/wine during meal or you can nip over to the bar for your drinks. After the meal we went into bar were there was a singer on. All the times we have been, there as been something on. Check first though as some are tickets only
Hello Mr C, how`s it hanging.
limp I'm afraid.
A few beers last night have left me below par.
Looking forward to next weekend though.
Hi folks,
You all well I hope?.
Gents I am right in thinking that some of you boys managed to get a butler creek to fit a Nikko?.
If so could you please pass on the details.
Jon, Sorry mate dont want to be a pain but did you have a good weekend ref Sidewheel, tried to use the sharkfin on the new scope but it was crap. If you cant make one no problem I know you are a busy man. Just let me know and I will try one of the Ian Taylor ones.
Bet you have missed it mate
Back in a bit
Hi Ya Swifty,
I found that Glasgow Field sports had some of the 54 size in stock. I think Greg bought the last 2 but the guy said he was having some more in. Not sure how because BC have stopped making the 54???
Anyway, here is the link, give them a try.
http://www.glasgowfieldsports.co.uk/view.php?module=products&productID=BCflipopencovers
Thanks for the link Phil will give them a try.
Well, I've just read Greg's interpretation of yesterday's events. How can he say such things. The way he treated me was apalling. It made Pauul feel so ill that he couldn't drink with us afterwards. I'm just grateful that some of you guys witnessed his gamesmanship for yourselves.
Phil, No 54 thats the correct one???, thrown my box.
Sorry Roy, i didnt see or hear anything, though one of you was going to grass.
Steve when do you want it for? Last week, just done Bulgaria.
Got a strict deadline to complete a project for end of this week, following week its living several thousand miles away and dont want it packing up in 140 degree heat.
Shot the arse off it today got rid of some of those dreadfull JSB.
Jon, Having shot with the sharkfin today as soon as possible mate it was a real struggle. When do you think you would get time?.
Arby, whats this I am reading about poor sportsmanship.
WELL, MY GAST HAS NEVER BEEN SO FLABBERED! How can Roy utter such porkies????????
Jon, have you seen that the rifle you worked on is going up for sale?
Jonta, how was the FC Course set out then?
I've been to the filums today, 'The Men Who Stare At Goats', most amusing!!!!!
Hi Gregory
Ahh Shaun, I thought I'd been abandoned then!
Evening all :)
Hi Greg, 4 targets along right side of 1st pool shooting across the way we normally shoot. The rest of the coarse comes back on its self shooting long ways into wood running parallel to the firng line of the WL. Very enjoyable, quite long coarse..
Not yet Gregory but it is imminent.
Any news of another Spanish class when yours finishes?
Hi Will.
Evening Will
Evening Jonta. Any plans made for next Saturday and duties for Sunday?
A few long ones today Greg, quite a few at 45 yards too funnily enough!
Mr C most of us there about 10, just turn up when you can.
Hiya boys,
I'm helping Dave put out a truncated club Course for Saturday, then dropping on where needed for WL preparations.
Could well start the week before Xmas Shaun, she suggested a slightly longer lesson format, 2hrs to makesure we cover all we need to but warned us that might push the cost up abit. The next one will be acredited though so,
EXAMINATIONS! ARGHHHHHH!!!!
Will, mostly 45 & longer then?
Very much so Greg except disciplines which were all under 35yds
Jonta I can't make it until around 1 due to kiddies football. But I'll work until dark; I promise!!!
A bit of everything really, standers at 18 and 23 yds, a few short seducers and sitters between 35 and 54 yds, mainly above 40 though.
And how did Ian do?
No problem Mr C, hopefully may be nearly sorted by then so we can shoot Daves coarse or have a plink on zero range..
Been gone less than an hour and 1200+ crops up, its not on.
Which one Greg, i have hand made 21 rifles and converted a fair few.
Genuine this time Jonny, no poaching of any kind.
Matt's
Greg, Can you check your phone mate.
Ian missed 6 first time through but had big issues with top turret. Then we did another 18 think he did 2 then
Sorry Will cant get 54 yards unless out in the windfield.
Jon the way we shot today you could get at least 100yds
Got a cpl of the long ones today Jon? Anyway, when you going to make my bloody wheel? ;) lol
Hello Greg,Jonta,Shaun,Will.
Jon, Did you see my reply?.
They apparently set a new Course out at FC Jon.
Greg.....
REEEEEEEESULT!!!!!!
Newcastle Under Lyme Taybarns
Talke Road
Newcastle Under Lyme,
Staffs, ST5 7AL
about 20 mins or so away!! :p
Shot it like that a good many times John 20-30.
Sorry Steve, I had my mobile turned off for the cinema & forgot to switch it back on.
Jon, No problem ref Wheel dont want to jump the queue.
Funny that Jon, Neale said its the 1st time they have done it this way ask Ian.
Theres a first time for everything, i could tell you the ranges.
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