The MFTA Winter League began at Far Coley in Staffordshire. Despite a clear sky and plenty of sunshine there was a cold edge that signalled winter was on its way. A light breeze drifted across the Far Coley woodland, just enough to tickle pellets away from the kill zone or perhaps not enough to guide that straight-one onto the paddle.
After a very successful summer for midlands' shooters there now followed the challenge of ten rounds of the Winter League. Whilst the WL is a great introduction to the sport of Field Target shooting it is also a fervent competition. Top gun from last year was Neil Daniels and there were many excellent shooters after his crown. Maybe the overall title was only for a coveted few but the lure of a place in the MFTA Inter-regional team (top 15) and the Frayed Knot team (top 30) was there for all to dream.
Steve Page, back from South Africa and amongst the favourites for the WL title.
Far Coley's shooting ground consists of various terrain set in working farmland. Today the course started with six targets around a fishing pool, it then meandered up to a new shooting line offering woodland targets. Then on to the empty pool, where declined shots could be found, and finally a tricky pair in exposed field. An excellent test!
Two shooters, Stuart Hancox and Steve Page, came off the course early sharing an impressive score of 28; this would be later matched by Neil Daniels. Michael Brown and Marc Fisher bagged a pair of 27's to give Castle three shooters in the top 5. The scoring then got tight with fifteen shooters sharing 16th spot having knocked over 24.
It was good to see old friends and some new faces on the line.
One of the bonuses of FT is that there's always something to see. Today the farmland was alive with birds but I was surprised when this little fellow flew across the pond whilst I was waiting at lane 1.

Round 2 of the MFTA Winter League took place at Castle FTC near Nottingham. It was a beautiful autumn morning, the sky was clear and there was only a little wind. The car park at Castle was bathed in sunshine but a trip into the woodland saw the temperature plummet. The weather forecast had promised 8mph wind and this coupled with Steve Page's poly-directional course was sure to be a test. The dense woodland of Castle can provide some shelter from the wind but there are open avenues that are exposed which meant that each target needed careful thought.
The misses on the targets today were offering little clues as to the wind direction. What was evident though was that some shooters were missing low, probably because of the cold. Targets were showing the tell tale crescent below the kill-zone. Some face plates had taken quite a battering, particularly the 40 yard stander!
Despite talk of lots of misses some top guns were constructing a good round. Once again Mr Daniels sent the message that he was MFTA Champion and wasn't ready to relinquish it. Well done Neil for an excellent 29.
Being close to the NEFTA region means that a Castle competition will attract our friends from the north but today a surprise Welsh interloper, fresh from 3rd place at the Worlds; well done Berty!
I wasn't there but I gather it was very windy. Congratulations to Marc Fisher whose score of 23 was 2 clear of the field.
Millride it seems is always blighted by poor weather. Last Winter League the wind was gale force and the GP in May saw conditions more akin to the Southern Ocean. So when the forecast for this weekend was for more of the same I'm sure many shooters considered doing a bit of DIY on Sunday. However, the sky remained blue all morning and the sun slowly warmed us all up. I think that some shooters were disappointed that the urban myth had been broken, I heard one claim "we're not supposed to get sunshine at Millride".
Today's shoot consisted of 22 targets within the small wood and 8 exposed targets in the field. It started with a welcoming 55 yarder which was quickly followed by a high stander that caused problems for a few. The wind direction was mainly parallel to the shooting line which meant only a little needed to be given for wind but deciding which side was tricky. It was a long course yet early scores were high. First on the line was Karl and Debbie Clarke from Millride; Karl set the pace with an excellent 28 and Debbie a strong 20 to help her pursuit for the C grade table. This is Debbie; I think!
Millride is the home ground of Mitchel Tomes who today added another 21 to his string of good scores. He is 2nd in B grade and a shoe-in for the Frayed Knot team. Keep it ip Mitch!
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I have to say that we've had no trouble at all from BT until this episode. We're changing to O2 next week because it's not only cheaper but their equipment is capable of higher upload speeds. Fortunately, my son is an IT engineer and is happy with the change.
Jon, Left collar on because managed to get zero ok when checked 3 times (still think it moves in cold weather).
When I undone the 3 grub screws the barrel seemed to be very weak and easy to move? not sure would like to leave un supported.
getting 600 like that is cheating and it is not very sporting do you agree jon, greg. i could have done that, but i though better of it. so ha
Buenas tardes a todos, ¿cómo estás?
Tinight's magic word was,
'HAY' Pronounced, 'EYE'
It allows you to ask, "Is there?" or say, "There is!"
Swifty, taking a 'time-out' & sorting it all tomorrow may be better than a mad panic tonight matey.
Royston is back! Hurrah!!!!!
swifty if you take clamp off get another muzzel brake made. A lighter one made, it will be simular to my pro target JOBS A GOOD UN
good evening sporting greg
Good evening to you Sporting Ian, do I find you hail & hearty?
Anyone else having a game getting onto STB?
Slight problem Saturday. Chuggin' Betsy is having her under carriage examined for loose & knocking things in the morning so if all proves well I'll be going to the 'ride straight from the garage. At this point I do not know what time I'll be arriving or indeed, if there is a problem, if I'll be arriving so, be advised!
Evening chaps!
Steve, that's awful news. Good luck in getting it right and let's hope it's back for Sunday.
Unsporting behaviour from Mr Gee.
Shaun, how did your lección go tonight?
not from here mate. i have just polished of a bottle of stormhoek pinotage
how do you get that hifon over the o greg
A good lesson.
We learnt numbers 0 - 1000
Looked at "Ester"
cuanto anos tienes?
Marriage, family etc
that don`t sound good to me shaun
Sorry Greg, has the sight of all those number made you sweat?
A few tablets and it'll be okay.
Ian, just press the 'Alt Gr' button next to the space bar at the same time as any vowel letter & it'll put an accent over it.
áéíóú
Well, you're crackin' on mate ain't yer? We just picked up our worksheets for numbers 1-20!
the "tilde" Greg?
After 30 all the numbers become 30 and 1 , 40 and 2 etc. so there's not that many to remember.
thanks maté
Well, I've now caught up with my emails and 8 day's worth of Herald crosswords.
Good news about Val going to Euskadi.
Well, possibly Shaun but you see I'd call this a tilde, Ñ.
Again I asked for specifics about the next stage but she just doesn't know yet. She promised to bring her manager's number next week so I'll have a chat to him.
Yes Roy. Now we need a few others........IAN!
Sorry Greg, I was asking you how to get the "tilde"
Greg, the Easyjet site is now showing July 2010 but presently isn't allowing booking.
I agréé Grég
Ahh, it's a code. Hold the 'ALT' button down while entering a 3 digit code, it will give you a range of symbols.
The tild is ALT plus 164 for the small ñ or alt plus 165 for a capital Ñ. The upside down question mark & exclamation mark is also there. Alt plus 168 & 173.
i`m only just getting to grips with this computer another language i am only just managing english
We are SOoooo close to booking!!!!!!
Tú soy que tal Ian, tú soy que tal!
muchas gracias mi amigo.
hasta mañana.
Shaun, I know that isn't gramatically correct but it's the closest I could get to,
'Y'am alroight!'
wat ever
This Interweb thingy is playing right up tonight, I keep losing the page when I refresh, everything is loading really slowly. That might be why I can't get STB!
It's that Royston, bringing his Internetitis on here infecting us!!!!!
Don't blame me. It's probably because of all that Alt Gr'ing you've been doing.
Thats Virgin throttling you Balts.
I wouldn't mind a bit of virgin throttling Jonny, know any?
Throw a bucket of water over him, Jon.
The Americans are getting alot more excited about their Nationals this weekend than they did about the Worlds.
Good one Roy still got around 7 months left on contract.Top up mobile £10 every three months to gain a fiver discount per month!
Was with the best Ipstream adsl until earlier this year, held on as reseller was offering LLU. Turns out they went with BE which is owned by O2 but like for like cost £27 p/m against £9 odd plus three months free, same service minus the extended help.
O2 now throttle peer to peer in peak time and know a few that download 450Gb+ p/m without getting a slap.
Only other decent isp is Sky but refuse to have phone and tv package.
I am at the end of the line here as well, had to force BT some years ago to install adsl on 1/2 meg.
Tettenhall (CMTET) exchange but cables go at least 6km.
LLU download on router 75db attenuation! Hover round the 1.6 to 1.7 meg.
Just caught your last message as I was closing down Jon.
Message from my son, that I don't understand a word of - as follows.
Yep o2 use their own equipment in the exchanges, if you're on the home access packages they rent the equipment off bt. Best thing to do is go on a premium package, 9.79 per moonth, no packet shaping, no port blocking except for port 25 and adsl2+ making them the only provider in the exchange that we run through to get ADSL2+!!
On Ipstream with Entanet before it went pear shaped Jan this year with the packeting. 18 months never got over an IP profile of .75meg, many months sub 1/2meg. After the drove of people leaving, i was getting 1.44meg down but nil when a faster user was doing something.
Widespread LLU disconnects at the moment Roy, right pain last night.
Cant grumble, less than £10 a month, cheapest i have ever been with.
Thats the one i am on Roy.
Greg i dont know any virgins, but i could introduce you to a few that want a rebore, some round Wombourne.
Quite correct Roy.
BE installed the equipment for LLU ADSL2+ (local loop unbundled)in designated exchanges.
BT are trying to do away with standard ADSL implementing ADSL2. Some are limited/throttled to 2meg regardless of whatever isp they are with.
Evening all, what's happening?
Hola Gregory!
Quick get off the dreaded 666
Depends which way you look at it Damian.
¿Qué tal muchachos?
We need to talk times for Sunday Shaun.
In other words, what time do you want me to arrive 5 minutes later than on Sunday?
672
quite a long way to go tonight.....
Gregory, your memory gets worse. Paul is driving on Sunday you and me is drinking. Para beber dos cervaza por favor. He's picking me up about 745 so at yours about 7.25 I assume.
Oh dear i have put the cat amongst the pidgeons on airgunforum but very confident.
rushing to look John.
What he dont know is i have already tested most scopes out.
Nightforce NXS similar within 1 min of a PM2, though my VX3 will disappear 6mins before PM2 but will come back 2 mins later and end about the same. 32 mag Mark 4 of Gungeeks went 7 mins after PM2, my 35 mag went 11 mins after.
Burris 32 mag RA within 1 min, Tasco 8-40 mark 1 12 mins before.
There are others.
What he also dont know is i was talking to head honchus at S&B three years ago, most of them now at Premier Ret! I had a 50 mag and know its short comings most notably the lens quality or lack of it.
Forecast is for 9mph at Castle on Sunday.
Can you double that and i will be ok.
Back again.
Your not upsetting folks on forums are you Jonny, that's not like you!
¿Donde está Royston?
Greg are you able to receive e-mails with attachments?
Gone to watch killer whales eating baby seals
The Lickeys are an amazing venue for Natural History!
Yes, my gmx account for safety.
Early evening from a non-saturday-shooter. Any news?
Evening Shaun, Karl, Jonny D on 2, Jonta & Daz on 3, Roy on 6 & Ebs on 9. Me on.....................16!!!!
I clipped a tree on target on for a missed plate & it went all down hill after that. Not equipment though, pilot error, just a VERY poor technique. I don't think my head was entirely around the idea of shooting today, I'm not even very upset.
A good nights kip then up early for a 21 tomorrow!
Evening folks.
Last time i was up the Lickies the trams were running.
Mitch 5, Phil J 6, Phil G withdrew.
John surely you're not 60!
Evening Greg and Roy.
Was Paul there?
Evening Guys, Greg think Karl went through with Walther and dropped 6 but he was happy with it as the first 2 were due to his wind indicator fouling the floating barrel.
Debs shot well again, want one of those trigger buttons Karl as on the Walther.
His Phil going tomorrow, did he sort out his issues
Evening Jonta. I'm feeling envious of you guys doing all that practise.
Mr C some of us need the practise
I'm hopeful that Phil will be with us. I've had no message to the contrary.
What did kevin finish up on with the new scope?
I'm hopeful that Phil will be with us. I've had no message to the contrary.
What did kevin finish up on with the new scope?
Good result for your guys Roy.
Pay attention you lot, do I have to repeat myself.
Did not see Kevin when he came off to see what he did. He said he will be at Castle tomorrow though
Yes pay attention
No i aint 60 yet, cheeky swine but feel like it.
700 for me
Despite the closeness to 700 I must retire. See you guys at Castle.
Where is Ian for the 700
John it's been a long time since we saw trams. The old tram terminus is now a chinese restaurant; I'm banned!
Very late 60's while still living in Hnadsworth. Saun bought a bazooka think it was that you play in your mouth where the tram ended.
Still got trams up Blackpool.
Shaun, I'd have settled for a point before the game, but disappointed now that we didn't get 3 points. The trouble is that everybody below us in the table has games in hand except Blues. I understand that Blues played better than the result shows.
Jonta, Kev's travelling in with me and PJ tomorrow.
Sorry, I meant PG.
Catch you guys tomorrow.
Just vaguely remember, scenile decay, was there a clock tower and the road curved round to the left.
Dont know much that side of Brum except Solihul.
Amases me what times you boys plan on getting up in the morning.
Personally i reckon another 2hrs in bed then have a butchers out the window.
Thought thats who you meant as PJ said Jo is coming tomorrow. He wants us to encourage her to shoot
Where are Ian and Greg, bet they are watching Xfactor
Singing along with a crate of Bud, could be down pub though.
Jon, he said he was not going to drink, he is to competetive these days in comps
Roy, I'll definitely be going tomorrow, but I'll see how the gun feels on the plinking range and decide whether to shoot.
Nice one Phil, can I have a shoot of it as well.
Walther package for sale on the STB, no price as yet
Karl, logos sent to your aol e-mail address
Shoot it, you can have it mate
it is i! only had one bud, mans got to keep a clear head.
Phil seems strange especially as things were fine last week.
Well Ian sleep or Xfactor for your absence
how far was the long rat on the plinking?
From where I sat 57/58 yds
58 yards mate
I could only get it to 55 yards, thats probably why the pellets were hitting low on that one.
But all the way round, anything over 45 yards was a complete mystery. I couldn't even see where the misses were going.
I've put the pull through through it, but I only used it a couple of weeks ago, it's not needed cleaning that often since I've had it.
are you sure its not you. gun was great the other week i think its its in your mind
I've put the original hamster back on to see if I can get back to some stable ground.
I've also tweaked the side wheel round a yard or so cos Karl mentioned earlier he thought the rat was 57.
how very dare you....
Yes, its probably me, but I can't blame myself now can I?
Daz got it 55yds but he was sitting directly infront of it as I was almost by the Hedge/gate
Definately 57 where most were sitting.
Dont worry about being out, its in the field. Now you have adjusted it will throw woodland ranges out.
Learn and live with it.
Generally if your not seeing your pellets Fly or at least hit plate tends to point towards trigger technique. As this will pull gun off target line
how far was the rat about half way up, target 16ish? I was getting 51 yards
Was that the one where we use the high position up the bank at 55yds.
With this target on the metal table thingy, if so 52yds
yep thats the one.
Range was not an issue then mate
checked it over the chrono and got mid 760's where it should be. got one down at 751 but that shouldn't make more than a couple of pellets width
I see what you guys are doing here, ruling out all the possibilities until I realise it me thats the problem.
Well I'm not as stupid as Ian looks you know....
Nothing wrong with power either then, Andy Gillots, Bob banks, and a couple of the NEFTA shooters have all said they vary upto 20fps. This will have very little consquence on pellet strike.
Infact Saun at sporting set a gun up in a jig at 55yds. Then put a group in at 800fps. Then turned power back 30fps. Result was around half a pellet width lower
We all have those days were things do not seem to make sense especially when week previous things looked spot on
What was that Shaun was shooting today?
I guess it was an ISP, was it a new design? looked nice.
so we have eradicated all possible things it could be! so there its YOU...................
Yes its his latest venture, he made it a couple of months ago. Nice blue anodised action, landrover silver stock
OK, OK enough of picking on the fat kid, where's the motivational encouragement?
looks like Karl is sniffing around another 45 comp, wouldn't it just be easier if he got paid in Leups?
you shot other week fantastic we all know you can shoot well need to relax ....ooosaaar a bit
That was Ian giving encouragement...
Tommorrow will be different you see, you will probably be smiling like a cheshire cat or on the other hand like a womborne scawl
right, off to dream of targets falling over
See you tomorrow
think you said it before .....shooting is in the head
Going to strongly disagree on that 30 ft/sec jobby, tried it all out 1 years ago. 70 ft/sec needed at least 3" knocking off in height and no wind.
A rise of 16ft/sec needed 1/2" less wind.
There again this is the guy trying to tell me that the sidelever on current gun is pulling the bolt to one side upon cocking and his own doesnt! Probably designed and made more sidelevers than anyone as each one was totally different.
Me thinks theres bigger issues even so nothing a sprung ball wont cure, done that as well.
Just had this through a few minutes ago.
The World Championship will be on 1st to 3rd of October, 2010
someone said Lee was there yesterday but I didn't see him?
You don't suppose Paul, Greg, and Shaun are still in the pub do you Phil?
We made it home, just! With great thanks to Mr O'Hanlon who drove home 2 sleeping passengers.
just a reminder to our representatives at the MFTA meeting to discuss dissemination of meeting minutes
Who me?
well no, you'll be filing your nails and making tea.
I'm talking to the Chairman of our club.
and, Mr C'mon I support shotgun starts in WL, and percentages instead of points. make it so.
Seconded........and 40 shot courses..... and waitress service on the lanes as well please.
"thanks to Mr O'Hanlon who drove home 2 sleeping passengers"
Much snoring???
I don't know I was asleep!!!
Yes, that's what Greg always says.
Shaun, any details of WL10 I can post on the WL page?
After Wednesday, I hope.
I'll third it then, some things got to change 2 shotgun starts or two sessions like now.
Joke again Sunday, 2hrs 20 min hanging round before able to shoot then never shot a course so slow, well over 2hrs for 30 shots.
Probably because most of us couldnt find the targets due to strings going up M1 first.
While on the subject of MFTA meeting, can you ask whether the Grayhound can host the number of cars expected and its implications.
Sure will John if they are present at the meeting.
Just nodding off.
Hi all, Black Powder night down the 49th. I fired my first cylinder without any misfires tonight, how did anyone EVER get shot back in the 1860's?
I freely admit to dropping off in Paul's car, there must be a first time for everything!
Sixth from bottom & alot of damage to repair. One step at a time, pass Gary A. Fisher then aim for Roy!
Don't worry Greg, it looks like I'm coming down to meet you on your way up.
I was going to say, "Or we both go down together", but I thought better of it!
How about this piccie from the U.S. Nationals lads?
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc267/Baltipal/IMG_6536.jpg
No one about tonight, is there Football on?
Hi Greg
Laters, to much excitement for one night
how do Greg. mmmm lovely blue anodised cylinder ready to go back on.
just need a deep 17mm socket now. trip to maintenance tomorrow me thinks.
See the photo Phil, give you any ideas?
Nice Balts and they wonder why they are ridiculed.
I'd like to see the gun bag he keeps it in....
Only in America.
Now the P70 is stable powerwise at fast velocities. Cant quite see from piccy whether two air tubes or one bigggg one plus receiver, reg and that must have clock they so like.
Folds away Phil, takes him 20 mins to get a shot off after setting up on each lane and attaching bondage gear.
team won again C`mon. shot a 29 tonight
Sorry I've been away, Mom keeps chucking up, I sat with her for a bit.
Just finishing off a bottle of champagne in celebration of 25th wedding anniversary. J doesn't drink so I've had it all to myself.
Hope all's well now Greg.
Goodnight all.
That explains Jackie's youthful, lithe appearance & your dissapated, haggard countenance Royston!
Ta! Mom will be fine. She foolishly waited on dinner for me & ate too late. I told her what would happen when I saw her sit down to a plate of pie & mash at 1930hrs. She's been told off!
J says she likes you Greg.
evening all.
SA coming to Millride 21 Nov.
Whats on the agenda tonight?
No yanky biz to lower the tone.
tonights subject is temperature shift.
Should I expect to alter zero from warm to cold like I had to last weekend, or is it a symptom of a problem?
I had to adjust my zero by 5 clicks.
Evening guys, Phil did you sort out a socket for cylinder. We had nothing at work that would fit.
That picture link Greg as put on doe`s not open for me, states file been deleted or moved in photobucket
Jon is that 9002 for sale on the bbs the one the hungarian guy was shooting up our club. Cannot remember what he was shooting but the S&B looked familiar especially the top turret.
John, Hungarian was Andras with a seriously modded P70FT.
I'll have a butchers on bbs.
They must have similar turrets then Jon.
Weather looks s..t for the weekend
9003 is the latest S2, outrageous price, new would be around £2500.
I have an 8002 S2 on the way from Germany as we speak, should be at work Friday.
I remember him emailing some months ago wanting an 190mm wheel. 130mm thats on, i made a 5" and sent it S&B.
looks like he is not happy with the S&B either as he asking about leup comp series on the BBS
The latest Anchutz or should i say the S2 with gold valve dont have a front dovetail, its machined away.
You have to buy and bolt on an additional E20 approx front rail held on by two countersunk screws, got one coming as well.
Whats happening with the one from Germany, is it the one you were working on not long back
Go on then 800.
Where is Ian for 800
Still got the German one, owners butchered the captivated hammer spring may have to make a new one.
Do they let you work on them at work,or do you when they are not looking
Yes Jonta, a mate had got a deep 17mm socket. 3 drills and a bar soon tightened the other end, now on gun.
A couple of other bits off to the anodisers tomorrow.
Like what the barrel, action, rail etc Phil
Spark plug socket.
Can do it with standard length just pull out the square on T bar in socket.
Phil have to take your chance there with other colours.
Black, silver done almost every day, gold/yellow every two days. Reds and blues could be any amount of time literally months if they havent another job to do.
just the muzzle flip and hamster posts to start with.
we'll see how it goes....
In purple or pink would suit the blue tube.
Scope will be next then Phil....
Back shortly things to do
seemed quite accommodating.
Terry seems to be the 'team leader', the asian guy is the gaffer. Terry says "when are we doing the blue", the asian guy said "we can do some now, thats not a problem"
Dropped it off dinner time Monday, picked it up after work Tuesday, £10.
Think i am going pshychadelic luminous.
http://rifle-stocks.com/DG_Psych2Lam_LHSide10inch72dpi.JPG
When you go in just ask. Terry is production if you like while Dian is supervisor packer, goods in out etc.
Phil i have seen a few times trays of dust caps with 114 in from Daystate.
well when I went in Tuesday, they were jut carrying in what looked like Greg's new curry bucket, t'was the biggest spun dish you ever saw.
thats a bit 70's Jon
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