Saturday, 28 November 2009

MFTA Winter League 2009-10 Part II

Sunday 4th October 2009 - Far Coley
The MFTA Winter League began at Far Coley in Staffordshire. Despite a clear sky and plenty of sunshine there was a cold edge that signalled winter was on its way. A light breeze drifted across the Far Coley woodland, just enough to tickle pellets away from the kill zone or perhaps not enough to guide that straight-one onto the paddle.
After a very successful summer for midlands' shooters there now followed the challenge of ten rounds of the Winter League. Whilst the WL is a great introduction to the sport of Field Target shooting it is also a fervent competition. Top gun from last year was Neil Daniels and there were many excellent shooters after his crown. Maybe the overall title was only for a coveted few but the lure of a place in the MFTA Inter-regional team (top 15) and the Frayed Knot team (top 30) was there for all to dream.Steve Page, back from South Africa and amongst the favourites for the WL title.

Far Coley's shooting ground consists of various terrain set in working farmland. Today the course started with six targets around a fishing pool, it then meandered up to a new shooting line offering woodland targets. Then on to the empty pool, where declined shots could be found, and finally a tricky pair in exposed field. An excellent test!

Two shooters, Stuart Hancox and Steve Page, came off the course early sharing an impressive score of 28; this would be later matched by Neil Daniels. Michael Brown and Marc Fisher bagged a pair of 27's to give Castle three shooters in the top 5. The scoring then got tight with fifteen shooters sharing 16th spot having knocked over 24.

It was good to see old friends and some new faces on the line.
Welcome to Kev Jones and all the other first timers.

One of the bonuses of FT is that there's always something to see. Today the farmland was alive with birds but I was surprised when this little fellow flew across the pond whilst I was waiting at lane 1. Sunday 18th October 2009 - Castle
Round 2 of the MFTA Winter League took place at Castle FTC near Nottingham. It was a beautiful autumn morning, the sky was clear and there was only a little wind. The car park at Castle was bathed in sunshine but a trip into the woodland saw the temperature plummet. The weather forecast had promised 8mph wind and this coupled with Steve Page's poly-directional course was sure to be a test. The dense woodland of Castle can provide some shelter from the wind but there are open avenues that are exposed which meant that each target needed careful thought.

The misses on the targets today were offering little clues as to the wind direction. What was evident though was that some shooters were missing low, probably because of the cold. Targets were showing the tell tale crescent below the kill-zone. Some face plates had taken quite a battering, particularly the 40 yard stander!

Despite talk of lots of misses some top guns were constructing a good round. Once again Mr Daniels sent the message that he was MFTA Champion and
wasn't ready to relinquish it. Well done Neil for an excellent 29.Neil was joined on 29 by Anthony Johnson from Castle. He was thrilled with his score and 100 points puts him top of B grade. Just behind is Millride's Mitchel Tomes who posted an outstanding 26; well done Mitch. There was a string of 28's sharing third place.

Being close to the NEFTA region means that a Castle competition will attract our friends from the north but today a surprise Welsh interloper, fresh from 3rd place at the Worlds; well done Berty!
Sunday 1st November 2009 - Harriers
I wasn't there but I gather it was very windy. Congratulations to Marc Fisher whose score of 23 was 2 clear of the field.
Sunday 15th November 2009 - Millride
Millride it seems is always blighted by poor weather. Last Winter League the wind was gale force and the GP in May saw conditions more akin to the Southern Ocean. So when the forecast for this weekend was for more of the same I'm sure many shooters considered doing a bit of DIY on Sunday. However, the sky remained blue all morning and the sun slowly warmed us all up. I think that some shooters were disappointed that the urba
n myth had been broken, I heard one claim "we're not supposed to get sunshine at Millride".
Today's shoot consisted of 22 targets within the small wood an
d 8 exposed targets in the field. It started with a welcoming 55 yarder which was quickly followed by a high stander that caused problems for a few. The wind direction was mainly parallel to the shooting line which meant only a little needed to be given for wind but deciding which side was tricky. It was a long course yet early scores were high. First on the line was Karl and Debbie Clarke from Millride; Karl set the pace with an excellent 28 and Debbie a strong 20 to help her pursuit for the C grade table. This is Debbie; I think!
It had been suggested that Debbie's outfit had a bit of a polar bear look, no such subtely from Mr Page!Karl's 28 was soon bettered by Des Edwards of Harriers who posted a 29 and his score lasted the day; well done Des!
Millride is the home ground of Mitchell Tomes who today added another 21 to his string of good scores. He is 2nd in B grade and a shoe-in for the Frayed Knot team. Keep it ip Mitch!

Sunday 29th November 2009 - Purley Chase
What is it with the long range forecast? Or even the 24 hour forecast? Well thankfully the ugly weather didn't show and we had the most delightful conditions at Purley Chase. Would the benign conditions lead to high scores? As I joined the queue for lane 1 there were already three clearances and suggestions that more might follow; well done to Karl Clarke, Kevin Sayers and Steve Page.
Purley offers a range of shooting opportunites and today we
had up and down hill, high in trees, on the ground and over the valley. It was an excellent course in an excellent setting.
Lane 1 was a pair of slightly elevated targets, the tricky bit was the shooting gate that fell away downhill hence making breathing difficult. By contrast lane 4 was shooting slightly downhill and the seating area was deep in leaf litter which made for a very comfortable position. The first 10 ended with a pair of standers, both at a missable distance so a score of 2 from this lane would be most welcome.
There then followed some testing downhill shots and a pair of kneelers. The last five lanes contained some long range shots across the valley and a very golden bunny that blended in with the colour of the surrounding bracken. As I neared the end of the course James Osborne and Luke Williamson added two more clearances.
So benign conditions did lead to high scores and it does show that the Midlands is fortunate to have so many fine FT shooters.
After my victory in the golden bunny it seemed apt to spend some of it in the Market Tavern in Atherstone. A group of us enjoyed some excellent brew from the Warwickshire Beer Company; thanks to Bill for recommending the hostelry.
Sunday 13th December 2009 - Cross Guns
The last outing of the year for the MFTA WL took us to Cross Guns near Kinver; it is situated adjacent to the Kinver shotgun club which offers 100 birds every Sunday. Here's Daz Tomes tackling the silhouettes with the shotgun ground in the distance.
This is only the second visit of the competition circuit to Cross Guns and today Ryan had prepared a very different course from last year. The first 24 targets were situated in a small copse so they benefited from some shelter from the tricky and changing wind. The finish was challenging: a pair of downhill standers followed by four lengthy targets in an exposed field. Many a good score wilted on this section.

Bill managed the 50+ yard target 27 only to be caught out by "no wind" on target 28 a reducer.

Rob Long hitting some and missing some but always enjoying his shooting!
Kevin Sayers fresh from his clearance at Purley set the early pace with an excellent 27. Quite a few shooters entered the field with a chance of matching or beating his score but their hopes were blown away! Then along came Marc Fisher who had top scored at round 3 at a very windy Harriers and he too posted a 27.
As the morning grew older the wind strengthened so 27 seemed out of reach. Enter John Harris; John likes the wind as he proved in winning the MFTA Masters earlier this year, and Andras Fekete-Moro. Andras and his wife Agi are visiting from Hungary. In very tricky conditions John matched the top score and Andras went one better!
With 6 rounds now complete it is Neil Daniels who leads the way on 553 points. The leader-board is rather more stretched out than last year. After 6 rounds last year 12 shooters had scored more than 500 points and they all made the inter-regional team. This year only 6 shooters have more than 500 points so it's all still to play for.
Merry Christmas everyone!
Sunday 24th January 2010 - Woodend
The period of snowy weather now thankfully over meant it was back to business for the MFTA WL after a break of 6 weeks.
The venue was Woodend near Huthwaite in Derbyshire as far as the MFTA region extends before NEFTA outriders can be seen guarding the frontier.
Woodend is a dedicated fishing complex and once a year the WL visits to enjoy a course set in a different environment. The sky was dull and grey with only the occasional view of the Sun which was doing little to melt the remaining ice that covered some of the pools. The ice and snow had also done for a number of fish which floated on the surface having starved of oxygen.
Today's course took us to new areas of the grounds and made good use of the varying height of the terrain to offer shelter from a subtle and changing wind.
The course had been set expecting more wind than arrived so the length was on the short side but would it be cleared? Early on Dave Harrison posted a 29 and four more shooters matched it but no one went one better.
Steve Page dropped only 2 and ironically this is how many points he now leads the WL. It's Steve Page's hat and his rifle but whose steering? It's Mitch on his way to an impressive 25 and second overall in B grade and holding a place in the Frayed Knot team; come on Mitch!
Lane 1 was a gettable pair of standers followed by a string of targets set in a coppice across the smallest of the fishing pools. The course then turned 90 degrees and we shot from inside woodland out to targets set around the pool. Exiting the wood to finish with 10 targets in more exposed conditions.
So the WL is back up and running and with 18 shooters scoring 28 or above the six week break has done nothing to lessen the standard of the MFTA competitors. If you're like me and had a bad un then don't worry there's only one week unitl the next round at Dowry Hill and then one week later the WL makes its debut at the Greyhound.
Sunday 31st January 2010 - Dowry Hill

One week later and we're back on the WL trail. Today the MFTA visited Dowry Hill FTC near Groby in Leicestershire. This is a terrific venue that offers variable terrain in which to shoot. The course included targets within copse, across a ravine, up onto a bank and exposed conditions in an open field.
The early leader was Kevin Sayers who despite the tricky conditions dropped only two; recently Kevin has had a resurgence of form which now seems him lie 4th overall, well done Kev!
For a long time it looked as if no one would approach Kevin's score; many of the big players were dropping 5 or 6 shots and sometimes more. The problem was the last ten targets in the field. The wind was changing and if you were lucky the targets needed half a kill if not then a few inches were required. Then along came Mr Daniels to once again show that he wasn't ready to relinquish his MFTA crown; Neil matched Kevin's 28 and has closed the gap on leader Steve Page from 20 to 7 points. No others could compete with 28 but Steve Mason, Phil James and Andras Fekete-Moro managed 27. Posting an impressive 26 was Mark Brewitt of Castle. Mark is normally found shooting his springer but at Woodend he decided to try out his Steyr LG100 and had great success. It was out again today and with similar results; good shooting Mark!
There was a strong turnout from Welsh shooters today and all seemed to enjoy the day; come back soon guys.
We haven't seen Alan for a while and now we know what he's been doing; nice beard Alan!
Next time out the MFTA visits the Greyhound near Coventry. This is a popular shooting venue and next week it makes it debut in the WL. It also happens to be next to a real ale selling pub. Hope to see you there!
Sunday 7th February 2010 - Greyhound
A new challenge today as the MFTA hordes stormed the Greyhound Gun Club. And what a good course it was; thanks to Simmo and his crew. This ground was like no other I've visited, it had trees and open ground but what stood out was the marsh area and the winding brook. The Greyhound staff had set out a varied and challenging course. Lane one offered an easy start with an 11 yard reducer followed by a whopper at near full range; you had to learn the wind very quickly! The course then skirted a copse offering sheltered targets but exposed lanes before entering the marsh area. Here it proved very interesting shooting, there was only a little wind but it would change direction meaning that if you applied your previous solution you might end up with a dink. Two people didn't dink at all: Marc Asbury of Millride produced his first ever clearance and later he was joined by James Griffiths of Harriers. Marc's 100 points is the culmination of an excellent run which sees him move to 9th overall in the WL standings.
With one round to go there are still prizes up for grabs:
Overall - 4 people can win the title Steve Page, Marc Fisher, Neil Daniels and Karl Clarke.
This should make for a very exciting final round at the Midland Game Fair at Shugborough Hall on 21st February 2010.
A Grade - Marc Asbury has this one sewn up; a nice farewell as he goes off to AA, well done Marc. There could still be a bit of change for the minor places.
B Grade - Jim Vickers looks to have secured B grade but there is a scenerio that sees him finish second and it evolves his mate Chris Lee. All you need is a clearance Chris!
C Grade - Karl Hutchinson has been very consistent this year and only Dave Oakes can take the title from him. Dave all you need is a clearance.
There are also the team places of the Frayed Knot (top 30) and the Inter-regional (top 15). I'm sure there will be quite a few changes to the present positions after round 10. One newcomer to both teams is likely to be Andras from Hungary. He has shot exceptionally well and needs one more high score to secure his place; good luck Andras.
So to the finale at Shugborough Hall. With the public watching and much at stake it promises to be a cracker.
Many thanks to Big Phil Lloyd for the above photos.
Sunday 21st February 2010 - Shugborough Hall
The Winter League ended with some more winter weather. An early morning snow fall threatened my attendance at Shugborough but with a lot of luck and a little judgement I made it.
Today saw a shotgun start and round 1 was already underway when I pulled onto the car park.
Three of the 4 contenders were shooting round 1: Karl and Steve dropped shots early on which put them out of contention but Mr Daniels ploughed on. Neil shot superbly to drop only two shots in very tricky conditions. This meant only fellow Castle shooter Marc Fisher could take the title from Neil.
The second session began around midday and maybe the conditions were a little tougher. When watching the wind never seems as severe but when on the line, and seeing those pellets zoom 4 inches to the right of my aim point, it makes me wonder how a 28 is possible. The wind howled but Marc held on; he dropped only 5 finishing joint third which gave him 97 points and a 2 shot lead to take the MFTA title.
Marc Asbury won A grade at a canter, Jim Vickers was well clear in B grade and congratulations to Karl Hutchinson who won C grade and the Stourvale trophy. Karl looks like a great prospect; he has produced that rare feat of going from C grade to AA in one WL season.
So another Winter League comes to an end and it's time for some thanks. A big up for all those who have set out courses and to all those shooters who have made the WL such a friendly experience. There are a few who without their input it would not be possible: Tony, Cedric, Neale, Kevin and Sam. Well done guys and gal!!
Thanks also to Big Phil Lloyd for letting me use his pics. Now it's time for a blogging break I'll be back with FT Diary reporting on the BFTA Championship on April 10th 2010.

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CB Chairman said...

Right bed calls!

See you Sunday. We'll organise times later.

Baltipal said...

OK, Buenas Noches amigo.

Baltipal said...

A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL ON HERE!

arby said...

A day of celebration in the Arby household - it's Jacqui's birthday and I'm in the good books present and cardwise.

Baltipal said...

Evening all, are we all in a festive spirit?

Ayupmeduck said...

Merry Christmas to everyone on the blog ... nice to hear you are coming to Anston on Sunday Greg..

CB Chairman said...

Evening all!
Merry Christmas to everyone!

arby said...

Glad tidings everyone. We're just opening a case of assorted Holdens beers collected from the brewery this afternoon. Would anyone like me to pour them one?

CB Chairman said...

Yes, please Roy. I like a half pint glass with straight sides please.

Baltipal said...

Just pop the bottle Roy, pity to dirty a glass!

Baltipal said...

Where's Roy with that beer, I'm thirsty!

arby said...

Hope you enjoyed that. Just help yourself to another, Golden, Golden Glow, Mild or Special. 3.9,4.4,3.7, and 5.1 respectively.

CB Chairman said...

I'll take the cooking bitter!

arby said...

What time will you get the boys into bed tonight then Shaun. Is there much exitement?

arby said...

Sorry about the spelling - haven't even touched the 5.1 yet.

Baltipal said...

Err, is it 1 min per lane on Sunday?

CB Chairman said...

Hi again, just awoken.
Boys are just to bed v excited.

Greg I think a new photo is required.

I don't know the details for Sunday but I'm itching to get shooting.

CB Chairman said...

check out the review of the new Falcon scope of the AGF

Baltipal said...

Will I be shooting with Ella or Chloe, 1 min per lane suggests Chloe but I won't hit anything!

CB Chairman said...

It'll be fun though!

CB Chairman said...

Goodnight and Merry Christmas to all!!!!

Baltipal said...

And how are we all this fine Christmas morning?

CB Chairman said...

Merry Christmas!!!!

Baltipal said...

Merry Christmas to you Shaun.

Baltipal said...

Well, off to see the family & have dinner at my sister's.
I hope all your Xmas' are going well!

Neale M said...

Merry Christmas To All

Baltipal said...

Silly question but there isn't any shooting tomorrow at the 'ride is there?

Baltipal said...

New FT scope coming up lads;

http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=421854&highlight=Falcon+T50+scope

Ian C,mon said...

no.............merry christmas everyone .....ok its over now lets get down to more shooting lads C`mon

Baltipal said...

Evening bloggers, I hope your Christmas' went well but it's over now so down to shooting.
Now, what form will the comp take tomorrow, am I part of some team & if so am I shooting FT or HFT, is it Chloe or Ella?

Baltipal said...

What's the weather up there tomorrow?

CB Chairman said...

Evening Greg. I've just woke up. I have no expectations about tomorrow although I do hope to enjoy it.

I'm not sure that we shouldn't have had 25 at the Ride today. Perhaps beforehand it seems the right idea but by Christmas Day afternoon I was itching to be out.

Baltipal said...

It's been awhile since Ella has had an outing & of course that wasn't an over inspiring expirience. So, I agree afew on a nice friendly, familiar Course might have been just the confidence booster I needed.
What news of weather expectations for tomorrow?

CB Chairman said...

Sunny but quite windy.

Baltipal said...

It must be a round of constant partying for the bloggers, there is no one on here!

Baltipal said...

Simultanious posts, outstanding!

CB Chairman said...

Evening Greg, shouldn't you be in bed?

Baltipal said...

Not all of us need 13 to 15 hours a night young sir, I'll be retiring around 1030 hrs though.

CB Chairman said...

took two more today Greg, that makes 12 for December!!

Baltipal said...

Shaun 'Squirrel-bane' Shore!!!!!!

Baltipal said...

You'll have to have a Squirrel hat made, with several tails hanging down at the back!

CB Chairman said...

If I'd have known there'd be 12 I'd have contemplated making some boxers or some socks.

Baltipal said...

Going to check Ella & Chloe before tomorrow, I MAY have 170bar in my cylinder, I'll see. Extra oiling for Chloe as well, might be showers!

Baltipal said...

Furry boxers, furry side on the inside of course!!!!!!!!

Baltipal said...

Heard off Paul over yule matey?

CB Chairman said...

Well I'm of too to pack me gear and charge me gun.

CB Chairman said...

Saw him on the 22nd. I hadn't seen his new lounge, v nice.

Baltipal said...

I should have rung him, been so busy over Xmas though, oh dear, feel guilty now!

Baltipal said...

I think I'll ring him.

CB Chairman said...

See you in the morning, 10 to 6!!!!

That's 10 to 6am.

arby said...

Anybody still out there?

Baltipal said...

Hi Roy, I'm popping in & out whilst getting my gear ready.
You shooting tomorrow mate?

arby said...

Would love to Greg, but got family stuff to do. I'm looking forward to your reports though.

Up to 6 inches of snow forecast in the West Mids from Tuesday though. Wednesday and next weekend shoots could be in jeopardy if forecast is accurate.

arby said...

News of today's shoot urgently required.

Ayupmeduck said...

Hi Roy, We can be very proud of ourselves we finished 2nd just missing out to Ponty .. but we scored the highest team score of the day... and we all shot very well ..

arby said...

Excellent news. Was it well supported?

Baltipal said...

Evening all, I've fnally woken up, anybody about?

Baltipal said...

Scores on the doors;

http://www.shooting-the-breeze.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2641

Baltipal said...

Well, I'm at the 'ride tomorrow for some clay-dusting with Gary & Mark. Anybody else going?

Jon said...

Yo Greg, save you talking to yourself.
Hang on a bit Fursty Ferret to the rescue.

CB Chairman said...

Evening all!

A great day out yesterday but unfortunately I celebrated with too much Famous Grouse; still suffering!!

Baltipal said...

See, if you hadn't done that you could have come to Millride & dusted Clay-Pigeons with me, Mark & Gary.
A great day was had, 100 cartidges & two bacon & egg sarnies with tea followed by some Chloe/Plinking to finish in the wood, It's what used shottie cartridges are for!

CB Chairman said...

Sounds great fun!

I don't think I could have handled the bangs!

CB Chairman said...

Harriers looking dodgy on Wednesday.

Baltipal said...

I ran into Dave Harrison today at the 'ride, he seemed to think that Far Coley had something on tomoz!

CB Chairman said...

Heavy snow tonight could scupper any shooting.
It's about time you invested in a 4-wheel drive.

Baltipal said...

I suggested a Banana-buy sometime ago IIRC & was poo-poo'd!

CB Chairman said...

I think YOU should invest. Perhaps a tank like Mr T, perhaps a mohican as well?

Baltipal said...

I'd have one tomorrow & bugger the expense but Ahhh, the expense!!!!

CB Chairman said...

I could do the "mohican" for you free of charge.

Baltipal said...

Do you do Brazilians?

Baltipal said...

It's all gone quiet! Day of the Triffids is about to start, you won't get me out in the garden after that!

CB Chairman said...

I'm having to record it as I'm being subjected to Quentin Crisp.

arby said...

We don't talk about football on this blog, but I do have a 4 x 4 on the drive awaiting the snow.

CB Chairman said...

Not now you're 2-0 down.

arby said...

Who's 2 down? I've no idea what you're talking about. Congrats for yesterday, by the way. (and for today - it hurts)

CB Chairman said...

Our best run since 1911 I believe. Do you remember it?

arby said...

Very funny, and we're 3 down now.

arby said...

City haven't played that well, but what a chasm.

CB Chairman said...

It's new manager syndrome.

CB Chairman said...

I see your next game is against West Ham, now that's a 6 pointer.

We've got MU. Our PL history has never included a victory against them. I'd be happy with a draw and hope it doesn't signal a run of poor form.

Jon said...

Anyone want any socks and knickers?

arby said...

MM capitulated with that team. Why? His reasoning for the Man U game doesn't hold water this time, because we haven't got a game for 12 days or so.

Weather permitting, is everyone going to Harriers on Wed?

CB Chairman said...

Everyone who went to Anston is going except for Phil J because he has to work.

CB Chairman said...

My battery fails me I'll blog tomorrow. John, I hope that you manage to shift the unwanted underwear!!

Jon said...

Cold outside, well its white over an hour ago. Shocked me normal after 4pm.
Aint shot since Millride Christmas shoot, Cross Guns called off 'due to snow' PUSSIES
I made it and went 13 mile through single track country lanes.

Jon said...

I'll just wear it out Shaun

Jon said...

Been doing a bit of Gregory on and off line.
Quite funny my son giving it to the sales staff, taught him well.

Baltipal said...

Hello again, definitely going out in that garden ever again!
Jonny, I have far too many pairs of old underpants already, infact it's probably time for a bulk order of new skidders!

Baltipal said...

Re: my question of earlier, there is no shoot at Far Coley tomorrow, nothing till the 3/01/10. This according to Neale Marklew via PM.

Baltipal said...

Any ideas on where I might get a Falcon Menace 10x42 with a MP20 ret?
I've tried BAR, Northern Optics & Optics Warehouse but they don't appear to carry it.

Ayupmeduck said...

hi Greg , Found one on here follow this link copy and paste

http://www.airgunforhunt.com/index.php?catalogue&telescopic_sites&f=falconoptics

looks a good little scope..

Baltipal said...

Nice one Karl, cheers for your help mate.

Ayupmeduck said...

Are you going tomorrow to harriers i just hope the snow keeps away as It is a 90 min journey without the snow..

Jon said...

Yo Greg tell you tomorrow or very soon.
Nudge nudge wink wink 50 mag!

CB Chairman said...

Evening all.
Karl I'm only 20 minutes from Harriers. At the moment there's a light covering of snow and it is snowing. The forecast for tomorrow is to turn to rain or sleet.

Jon said...

Haha thats Cyprus plus delivery no vat EEC.

They are only 1 mile up the road from me, just had the geeza who does the pest control on there for one half of Falcon.

Jon said...

Shame i love shooting in the snow, especially when fresh and white over, sadly a rarity poss 6 times in 18 years.

Baltipal said...

Right then, what's the plan for tomorrow, shall we synchronise our arrival, what time is everybody getting there?

Jon said...

Well i have to be far side of Telford for 7am.

arby said...

Can Jon or Shaun provide a local weather hotline for tomorrow please?

Jon said...

I can, its snowing!
Bring a sled.

arby said...

I should have expected that.

Jon said...

Shame Gregs had a shave he could have been Santa.

See what i can do tomorrow morning but whats ok for me will be impassable for southerners, the whole world stops.

Jon said...

These are good Mr Greg marketed by several different companies, some unbranded.
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-10x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P499.aspx
Edgar Brothers, Niko, Tasco plus a few more, the type of scope order 50 and you can call it what you want.
Nearly had one 12 years ago an EB.

Baltipal said...

Very interesting Jonny, not really for me on this occasion, someone else has asked me for some asistence for that specific scope so I'm feeling abit hog-tied about choice.
I'm always looking to increase my background knowledge on the hunting style scopes incase Chloe's Hawke is on the way out, the jury is still considering that though!

CB Chairman said...

Well I'm making my decision in the morning. I suggest that, weather depending, we aim to get there for 10am. Or if the snow has been washed away maybe 9am.

arby said...

Weather or not, the earliest I'll be able to get there is 10:00 I'm afraid.

Baltipal said...

Is that when the warder unlockes the big gate Roy?

Jon said...

If i post on here by 7.30am, it aint bad get your lazy asses out of bed.

Ok Greg thought it was for you, i'll stop perusing now then.
Come across this http://www.fcsa.co.uk/forsale.htm Zeis at bottom shame not higher mag.

Baltipal said...

I 'spose we'll be keeping our eyes on Robf & his new March, when he gets it.

Shaun, give me a ring in the morning & I'll swing by & get you.

arby said...

I'm Ok for tomorrow Greg, security's always a bit iffy on Wednesdays.

Jon said...

Day Release Roy?

CB Chairman said...

Okay Greg, I'll ring you around 9am with a forecast. It may be better for me to meet you at the top of the hill.

arby said...

Care in the Community. The voices won't have a day off though.

Jon said...

Spose i better do an hour, bye.

Baltipal said...

That's a lot of gear to hup up the hill, are you expecting the worst?

Baltipal said...

There should be an 'm' in there somewhere!

CB Chairman said...

No, the snow is okay but that hill can be a bugger if there's ice. I'm so keen I'll be out early clearing the road!

arby said...

Shaun if you or Greg have a problem, give me a call cos I'll be coming in a Land Rover.

CB Chairman said...

Now that's FT in style Roymund!

Baltipal said...

Righto, you remember my address don't you Roy, swing by me, I'll direct you up to Shaun's, bring your air because I'm out & me & the boy Shore can be on the beer after the shoot, RESULT!

CB Chairman said...

I have air.

Baltipal said...

You won't want to carry that big arsed cylinder up the hill with your other gear as well though!

arby said...

I'd be happy to pick you both up anyway but I'm not able to leave here until about 9.30. Do you want me to pick you up from Shaun's?

CB Chairman said...

I won't need to if Roy has his 4x4

Baltipal said...

Roy if Chuggin' Bettsie can make that hill there won't be any need of a Landy but if she can't then I'm a temporary lodger so it'll have to be a double pick-up matey!

Baltipal said...

Listen up bloggers.
I know we have some missing personell because of Xmas & that but I do think someone ought to tip them the wink regarding the Worlds in Hungary, it seems that they won't be allowing gimp coats & god knows what else! I can't seem to be able to find a copy of the WFTA Core rules but I'm sensing trouble on the horizon. They seem to think that their NGB rules have preference.
Things will be needed to be sorted out before the day comes around!

CB Chairman said...

Is Hungary in your plans Greg?

arby said...

How about thermal vests Greg?

If you need any help in the morning then phone.

arby said...

Just reading Mrs Cooks Book of Recipes for Mariners in Distant Seas. Eighteenth century recipes including albatross, rats, dogs, goats etc. Fancy coming round for dinner?

Baltipal said...

I feel quite hot under the collar now, regarding the Shooting Jackets thread on STB.
I don't really know why either, I don't even wear one, I think it's the undermining of the WFTA core rules I'm sensing but I'm frustrated by not being able to find them to check my facts!
The Hungarian is just saying, "No, banned!" but I'm SURE we've done this dance before & it's clear interpretation of what is defined as, "Any clothes"

Baltipal said...

"Is Hungary in your plans Greg?"
Well, yes. I thought a bunch of us were giving it ago!

CB Chairman said...

I'd love to but the dates are wrong!!!

CB Chairman said...

Night teamsters!

Baltipal said...

I have a sense that there will be confusion & trouble at this one!

arby said...

Which one of your little lovelies will you be using tomorrow, Greg?

Jon said...

Greg ole boy i have a pdf of WFTA core rules, need an email addy.

Categorically states 'All forms of clothing permissible'
'Bean bags, elbow pads & knee pads - refer to host NGB rules'
'2 targets = 3mins', not as been written 1 min per shot plus 1 min set up time.

I will have a look on STB

Jon said...

Well good morning peolples wakey wakey.

Very light rain at most, its the spray off other vehicles.
No white around done 36 mile.

Get there around 10.30am?

Jon said...

Ooops, naughty boy chrono STB
Not sure think they use the worst chrono ever produced and not uncommon to see them register +80 ft/sec.
So after travelling etc get penalised through no fault of your own! Same as BFTA one.

Baltipal said...

Evening all.
Well, another poor showing from yours truely, had about enough of it now I have to say.

Baltipal said...

Did you lot know there was a Mk4 version of the EV2? I didn't!

CB Chairman said...

Evening Greg!

New grades are here.
G Ralph = 61.67%
Still a firm B grade. So not everything's bad.

Baltipal said...

Slideing though matey, sliding.

There maybe an oportunity of a EV2 Mk1 in the offing.

CB Chairman said...

please tell more

Baltipal said...
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Baltipal said...

What were the differences between the Mk1 & the Mk2?

CB Chairman said...

Are you in communication?

CB Chairman said...

The stock.

Don't know if there were any inner changes.

Baltipal said...

No, & to be fair he may not want to sell but I didn't think it would hurt to get some background.
I'll catch a word at Dowry.
You never know though, Paul may fancy a swap!

CB Chairman said...

Don't count your chickens!!

CB Chairman said...

Goodnight Gregor!

arby said...

Well Greg, I don't know how much more I can take of this. Yet again I've had to post an awful score just to give you the satisfaction of beating me.

Jon said...

Where do i start Gregor.
MK1 zero shift probs, weak pressure tubes, power, reg, valve pretty much covers the whole guns. All have gone back at least once since 2005 and have RN10 valve in.

Remember one of our springer 2007 Brum shooters waited many months, sent it back 7 times then demanded dosh back. The longest he had it for was a week at any one time and longest amount of shots 23. Close on 14 months and packed it in.

The two DH sold were mk1 sorted though, one went to Phil now in Belgium. The two mk2 he had were as bad zero shift and poor barrels sold now, on 3rd a mk3 rarely used even after having it looked at several times.
Says something.

arby said...

Confined to house with a streaming cold so no celebrations for J and me tonight. So, the rest of you, have a great time, and best wishes for the new year.

Ayupmeduck said...

Hi Everyone who bloggs have a happy New year.. Karl and Debs

CB Chairman said...

Happy New Year to all that BLOG!

Jon said...

Happy New Year everyone.

First to post this decade.

Baltipal said...

Well, here we are in 2010, though NOT technically the new decade till '11, argue with Shaun NOT me!

I don't know about the change, the last day or so I was sold on the idea but buying someone elses without providence or qualification is a fraught thing.
It could be that making Ella fit me is the solution.
Jon, can you make 'Bobby Banks' style scope posts, maybe spacer plates to lengthen the pull?

Jon said...

Evenings.
Wheres the last ten years gone since Millenium.

Jon said...

Gregory, you mean riser blocks, the ones on his Ripper?
Stock fit is everything, considering that stock was designed for 10M its way too short. General guide for any one is 14 1/2" trigger to butt, its a compromise.
Of course blade can be positioned back or forth, i normally work from pistol grip large finger.
Reckon you need 3/4" or was that 1 1/4"? added length.

Jon said...

Alastair Stewarts just said new decade.
Argue with him NOT me.

Baltipal said...

Nice one Jonny.
I have high mounts & riser blocks but because I've lost my hamster I think I need more hight under the scope so those monstrous Bobby Banks towers are interesting me so my head can be more upright on the eyepiece.
I need help from an engineering type so if you're too busy atleast some advise on how big & from where I can get them made.

CB Chairman said...

Evening all.
Which decade?
The first is 1 so the last is 10.

Baltipal said...

So the first of the second decafe is 11, yes?

Baltipal said...

That, of course, should be decade not decafe.
DAMN THESE FINGERS!

Jon said...

No its the second decafe

Jon said...

Damned these fingers that should be decade.
Time starts at zero, end of 9th is 10, else its 11 years.

Baltipal said...

But Jon, we have begun the 10th year so are surely still in the first decade(I got it right this time!) The next decade will begin at the start of the 11th year! Anyway I said don't argue with me. argue with Shaun, he's the Mathematician!!!!!

Snowed over night here & light snow at the moment, how's it looking over there, the 'ride still on?

CB Chairman said...

The last two post show why it is a continual argument because they're both right!
Time does begin at zero but there is no 0th year.
For interest the Roman number system does not have a symbol for zero. Today we use the Hindu-Arabic system which did not appear until well into the first millenium.
The same problem occured at the end of the 2nd millenium. We celebrated at the start of the year 2000, which was the 2000th year!

Baltipal said...

So the 21st century didn't start till 2001!

Great day's shooting at the 'ride, frozen ponds meant no Anglers so a reduced target ran out over the pond with a bounty on it's head or KZ! Two excessive range targets, thankfully standard KZ's were to be found on the Course of 25 & guess what I scored Shaun?





I dropped 4......2 of which were the Xtreme range ones & 1 erreant pellet that went wildly astray!
Honestly, just when you make up your mind!!!!!!!
We all decided to blame Roy anyway.

arby said...

Why, what have I done? Ruddy typical. Mind you, I've always said that eventually I'll drag everybody down to my level.

Many there today?

We need news of Bones, and Jacqui wants pictures. Are you listening Shaun?

CB Chairman said...

Bugger please excuse my poor spelling of "millennium".

Greg, a dilemma. At least it gives you time to decide.

Roy I'll put a picture of Bones on the front of the blog.

Tesla said...

Evening all.
Thanks Shaun for the Bones pic. He looks like very pretty and you will have an "other" disturb cause at home.

Roy what are you doing to be convicted?.

arby said...

Jesus, I don't know. Mistaken identity I think.

Tesla said...

Ohhhhh dear.
The year-end holidays hurt sometimes.......

arby said...

Thanks for the pic Shaun. we'll be interested to hear more about the family dynamics over the coming days.

Baltipal said...

Ahhhhh! lil' black Labiever or is she a Retrador. Has she left any little messages on the carpet yet?

Roy. 'cause it's your fault, who elses could it be?

¿Qué tal mi amigo, how was your Christmas?

Baltipal said...

Blue's at it again;

http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=423619

Baltipal said...

What do you reckon, GP on the market by March?

Tesla said...

Hola Greg, will be Retriever Labrador, at least this is the name in Spanish.This kind of dogs are used very often to bring the ducks from the ponds when the shooters are hunting.

Tesla said...

Xmas Hollydays have been as always, plenty of food, little exercise and drink enough.Bahhhhhhh...
Now I'm at Medina de Pomar. I was hunting woodcocks this morning . Two birds are been droped today. Not bad at all.

Baltipal said...

No Jesús, I understand Shaun's new little friend is a mix of both a Golden Retriever & a Labrador, though I could be wrong. Two distinct but similar breeds of dog, often used here for the same purpose!

Baltipal said...

I did some shotgun shooting last Monday, clay pigeons though, not game birds. Great fun, my shoulder has just stopped aching!

CB Chairman said...

Evening all!

Jesus, Bones is a cross between a retriever and a labrador.

Greg, looks like Karl is interested in Blue's Tx.

A couple of carpet presents so far.

Baltipal said...

Guess who's coming to FC tomorrow?









A certain Pilsbury!

Baltipal said...

And me!

CB Chairman said...

Not me!

Baltipal said...

Yes, you're following a small, dark, tripe hound about the house with a dustpan & brush!

CB Chairman said...

An accurate description

Baltipal said...

Where's her bed?

CB Chairman said...

At my feet at the moment!

Baltipal said...

Too tight for slippers eh?

She'll be crying for her brothers & sister tonight!

CB Chairman said...

Yes, she's not settled yet and keeps farting

Baltipal said...

Sounds like you!

arby said...

You sure it's the dog?

Baltipal said...

Evening Royston, I thought you were wrapped up in bed with a Night-nurse!

You thinking of doing the next Daystate Hooftering outing at Furness Mill good buddy?

CB Chairman said...

Anyone watching the darts?

arby said...

Unfortunately the present night-nurse has succumbed to the same affliction as myself; together with the offspring as well. Perhaps this is the ideal excuse for getting a new night-nurse.

Tell me more about the hooftering. will I hit more targets than I usually do?

CB Chairman said...

You get to lie down which would suit your present predicament

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